Data retention: how much do you care about your privacy?

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:40 am

Nirvash77 wrote:

Indeed it is! I care as my life depend on it.

Pirates sell a DVD only at 5$ each, still they manage to profits more than a billion dollars... how do they do it ? Shocked

Now if the Studios released their Movies for $2-$5 per D/L then they would seriously hurt the pockets of the pirates by taking a good deal of the Pirate Billions. of course still release xtra services on the DVD releases. So people will still by them.
The Spread of Broadband is so far reaching now that Millions of people would download a movie if the studios offered the D/L's Hell they could even do it on torrent servers like this. and charge people an Unlock Fee of a few dollars by regeristing the D/L with the studio.. So many possibilities they have not or are unwilling to explore.

Time to stop looking at Torrent sites as the enemy and to start working with them to make the money. The old way of doing things is fastly becoming obsolete, time to look to the future.

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:39 pm

This is one of the great topics about the future of multimedia content on the net.
The Internet has made a great magnitude especially with the web2.0 and the majors and others groups(...) want to control it in every sense.
-A process to youtube for disclosure of content subject to copyright ok.
-Getting IDs of people who have posted this content is ok.
But It becomes alarming when viacom wants to get ids an ips of people who viewed these contents. What does not make sense that's viacom wants to get the source code of youtube's platform and google tools which is use to identify violations of copyrights. (request denied by the judge). Nevertheless, we can concern about the data submitted to viacom and the protection of our private data. Why? the door is open to all abuses . The eff (Electronic Frontier Foundation) put in evidence this sensitive point in saying that this decision runs counter to some laws dealing with american audiovisual (Federal Video Privacy Protection Act - VPPA).
In the end if we want to continue this logic they should bring a process to all isp for offering us a connection with high debits which made their wealth and allowed users to do that (that's the way for reasoning by the absurd) because we must not mistake we're here because of the evolution of the Internet and telecommunications networks.
So I have nothing against the evolution of the Internet it's a global phenomenon which is necessary (I love my connection ... hum..& i think ... it's too low lol )
But I find it kind of hazardous approach not follow that logic commercial knowing that these nice up there guys share the big cake and we (in the bottom) are just the right to consume and consume. This makes me think of the beginning of p2p. At the advent of p2p they afflict users " PIRATS" and "DESTRUCTORS" of the intellectual creation , but recently the trend seems to be reversed and legal offer downloading is growing rapidly without counting that Sales seem to be stabilizing. Evidence that habits have changed and that even the big majors will gradually find their behalf. (But will they confessed?).
Today we are talking about youtube which for me is a new model in the distribution of multimedia content at the scope the universal public on the net.Beyond this kind of action is not against as users offence but it against all of web users who consume, viewed and publish such content.
It's just a theory ... but answer me!
I would like to know how many dollars, euros, £, (...) wins a user who illustrating an article on his blog by uploading on youtube an extract from a dvd purchased?

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:48 pm

I hate how people like John McCain are against something they know a damn about. They don't know how we feel and yet they don't listen to us when we want to have our privacy intact. Ugh make the most money by sucking up to the people who want to control us like hamsters, if we aren't that already.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:40 pm

It is a worrying situation, and commendation for staying firm. It does come down to things like economics in the end, and frankly irritating inflexibility on the part of the big companies. The gap between 'them' and 'us' is huge now. Simple things like making downloads available and cheap would likely relieve a lot of tension, I mean are you going to pay £20-£40 for a DVD etc? I know for me i can barely afford that at the best of times, pay at the moment is low, so what is the logical choice? Go for something free.

Again though, good one for sticking up for the users, that is one step towards holding off a flood, and there may be a tough time ahead.

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:21 pm

protilius wrote:

i feel fear as I read the words of the administrator that has to deal with the pressures of the world around "all of us."

The MPAA has a reasonable gripe with the piracy occurring every day...

But...

On the opposite side of the coin, its not as if Hollywood has "ever' done any of us any favors either. They are almost as bad as the music industry as far as I'm concerned.

If anything, the prices have gone up without any real reasons other than the realization they can get away with it and people will pay it without raising up a fuss over the issue.

I think its bullshit that the average minimum wage worker has to work as long as the duration of the movie to simply enjoy one.

Much less provide his family with the same entertainment for three times the price.

Translation... The average minimum wage worker has to work an entire day to take his wife and children out to the film and purchase enough popcorn and soda to go around in the meantime.

And for what? An hour and a half of entertainment that 'may or may not be" worth the money spent?

I'm sorry... but with the way the economy has been beating down 'sooooo" many good people lately, little things like a "free" movie, really help me tolerate all the bullshit good people have to deal with "every day." Including myself.

Sadly Are world is slammed on this and its pound to set off a 2nd stock market crash, and tossing everyone into another depression. All this in result to there saying how high gas is going up. gas goes up so dose everything around, anything that needs shipping, Such as the popcorn and movies to the theaters. same goes for gas for homes, and power to homes. are world is nothing but filled with fools that will do nothing but horde supplies such as oil. I know you putting up this subject i see little reason has to do with privacy. lol but it is a subject i don't mind talking about. either of them. in fact they need to be. Some people believe in global warming and some don't. Me i see relevance how it can be possible. but that has nothing to do with prices. the world can only support so much supply of oil. it may still have allot but its too far from reach. While are world wast its time and money on how to get to Mars there could be redirecting the funds towards getting are alt energies up. offering deals which one can turn in gasoline cars for a cheap exchange of a alt flue use cars or engines that can work and run on new flue sources. Right now there saying it be too much money to set up any faster. well there more worried about the national depth which is already crap what would it matter, Make sure ever truck stop has Bio Diesel for Rigs that are able to run on Bio Diesel. Right now where i live there like what? 3 That have Bio Diesel pumps or something like that. and i live right next to a heavy truck stop. i dodge semi's in my car every time i have to go get food for the family. I seen non of the pumps at those stations have Bio Diesel or even ethanol for that matter. its all the same. normal Diesel and unleaded Gasoline. Gas prices getting bad thinking about stealing one of the dudes Mustangs across the street (a horse ding dongs. lol not the car)
I got medical issues so i cant bike ride or walk for very long. so its just cheaper to feed water and hay to a horse. turn my car into a Horse Troff. Under the hood where the engine was can store hay. and in the trunk can be converted to hold water. hopefully once a new power is in the white house at lest for the USA side i know others have made more better attempts then the US. once the child like bush and tossed out the window into cow shit.

matter for privacy, on the other hand. Allot of good points. as for one person i read saying don't matter on turning IPs over cuz there dynamic. and there must be not thinking clearly. unless using a proxy they can back track the IP to a ISP and look into records which account under the ISP was using that IP at the time. the same can be said for a Proxy but allot mouse hunting for them the dig through Proxy address getting them to hand over and try to figure out which IP on there list is the one there looking for depending on the logging system of the proxy site. then having to go through the ISP to get a user account information such as an address. Proxy more easy to hide behind. I understand both sides. allot of copyrighting going on ISOhunt can maybe not keep up well. but yet there still attacking.

a somewhat thing happening to me. being sued cuz my car had a flat tire and tags where expired sitting on my land. my land, my car? utter foolishness. and when i finally after garaging the car and some how coming up with the money they where suing which i could of used to fix the damn car and plate it. had my sister go pay it and the dummy lost the recipe and there re suing me for not paying. they never kept the record. so its face the music or pay AGAIN! Owe them US$2500 which god forbid i don't have and have no more ways to make it. not in time for the court date. if i had the money i wait till court see if i can win the case. more likely not fair trial my ass with a have ass judge only believing the system and old photos with the date modded on them im sure. I have the money to pay the ass wipes to at lest stay out of jail. which why if i make it out of this first chance im out of this god damn hell hole they call place of freedom. its a corrupted system with a little man in the white house playing with G.I. Joes. Right now London sounds nicer to goto. got some friends there that might set me up till i can get used to the changes and get on my feet.

and DaveConnor John McCain i think just under everyone hat hates everyone. lol

BouncinBunny think of the world where in. if it don't say educational like on the history channel when it says free service for education in the class room or some shit. or the price tag say 0. if not the company with rights to it are gonna keep a eye out for someone to catch and make a quick pocket change from wining a case against them.

my reason more for running off to London not cuz of privacy its other things. such as the government in general and personal things with me needing a fresh start way far away.

and for record im in State of Indiana if anyone plans to bug me asking where in the USA.

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:15 pm

What kills me, Indiana Jones has already made 3/4 of a billion dollars.

Batman is the first movie to break 200 million in a single weekend (or the quickest one to do it, CNN.)

They're setting record after record...

And the prices are only going up.

WTF?

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:27 pm

Just a quick note to say thanks to ISOhunt for keeping privacy as a top priority and fighting our corner.

For anyone who likes to read and hasn't read it, George Orwell's "1984" speaks volumes on this subject Razz

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 4:33 am

protilius wrote:

What kills me, Indiana Jones has already made 3/4 of a billion dollars.

Batman is the first movie to break 200 million in a single weekend (or the quickest one to do it, CNN.)

They're setting record after record...

And the prices are only going up.

WTF?

its going up because the greedy bastards who control the movies are exactly just that - greedy bastards. They have power and influence, and they use it to benefit themselves. The only thing we little individuals do is complain, but because we are powerless, our words will only fall on deaf ears.

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:40 pm

Rants about the nature of this harshly monopolistic capitalistic system aside, (believe me, I've got my rants about it too):

Aren't I supposed to see the url as https: //isohunt.com? Because I'm still getting the old http. I only saw the secure url for a couple of days. Unless of course there's something I need to change, or its already secure anyway...

Okay, now on the rants - I can understand that it costs more than ever to make anything without cutting corners. But you know what? They still cut corners. Even still, they have the nerve to jack up the prices.

Screw that noise. While there are a few artists that I happily support when I'm financially able (because they, more than others have earned the support but aren't getting it from the sell-out system otherwise), and I'll rip the rest off. Heck, the rest I end up deleting anyway.

Some of it I want to charge those arse-hat pigs for time out of my life wasted, without any sort of enjoyment or usefulness.

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:49 pm

This is what I see in my address bar.

https://isohunt.com/forum/index.php

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:18 am

I am new here. I wanted to say hello in a separate thread but I was reading this and I wanted to comment on something.

Every now and then I would download a few songs. Maybe even watch a movie online. It wasn't that much. I could count the amount of times I did this on one hand for a year. But you know what really got my interest in downloading more? The MPAA, the RIAA and all the crap they are doing.

I am tired of these corporations crying the money blues when real people in this country and around the world are struggling to make ends meet, and in some cases dying.

Am I afraid that they will sue me? Hell no. I don't have anything of worth. If they took all I have, then I would be pretty much where I am now.

Am I afraid they will throw me in prison? Nope, even if they did. Because I know many people that will get the word out about how much this is costing tax payers. To put someone in prison for a few years alone would cost a very large amount of money that WON'T come out of the MPAA or the RIAA's pockets. But the average middle class working families pocket. Not to mention that many more people will start worrying and forming a negative opinion about them the more they go after the average person.

Some years ago I would have been in full support of both the MPAA and the RIAA. But when I see them going after personal information, like Youtube, going after 12 year olds, and telling a mother that her 3 year old dancing to prince can't be on youtube (even if it is only 30 secs and you could hardly hear the music,) and the fact that they are trying to completely get rid of fair use. Then in my opinion they can go to hell.

Oh, and hello everyone, lol.

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:01 pm

This is bad news for all the users. Mean user who registered on this site and if forcefully to give info to such organization will able to reveal the IP of the user who downloaded the torrent before and send fines.

Annoymous user will remain hidden. That is, depends how this site log user's data.

EDIT: I think the real question is. How much you trust Isohunt's policy. Smile

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:48 pm

That's why people (not me) donate by paypal, you do a good job!

P2P is here to stay. I love how people are getting more serious about CAMs now just to take on the MPAA. Not that cams were ever all that important either way (people who watch a lousy cam ain't lost potential profit anyway - and mostly it's just to say you have it early) but its a case of - if you're going to try and stop us then we'll make sure to get around you.

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:13 pm

Now what sucks about this is that I have been busted by using ISOhunt. Twice now Cox Communications disconnected my internet and required me to repay my bill along with a d/c charge. After taking it up with their main office, I was told I was using P2P programs and the movies I downloaded were breaking copyright laws.

ISOHunt is the only p2p that I use. Now the only way they could know that I was downloading was through the government agency. When I asked them why they (Cox) were browsing my computer files, I was told it was the same agency. Along with that, was told "If you have one more incident like these other two, you will be prosecuted for copyright infringement along with no longer being able to use our ISP"

What are your guys thoughts on this?

(Oh, and Boo hoo hoo to the millionaire Hollywood / music artists who just want their money and not getting it. Welcome to being poor like the rest of us)

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:15 pm

I use an ip-masker whenever online, it makes a fake gibberish ip to show to the world, and it works better than any firewall. But sadly that software is illegal in America (I'm in Canada), cause they don't want you to use the internet freely without being watched.